Talk:Eight circuit model of consciousness
From The Maze Where Realities Converge - the psychedelic encyclopedia of reality from The Ultimate Comment
- Dimensional Transfunctioner - Quantum non-local circuit - yes. I somewhy often think of reality fish as 8th circuit, but that's just cus of the unknownness. Dimfunc makes more sense.
- General Miaow - Semantic time-binding??? Socio-sexual??? - I've always thought of the General as 3rd circuit. at the same time a general is an army concept and army is territorial 2nd circuit as it gets. however "impossible things keep happening" is quite the scientific type thinking that i associate with 3rd circuit, and also is a comment on the linguistic divisions we put upon things and their possibility, which is pretty semantic.
- Triangulon - Neuro-genetic ("Everything's self-perpetuating" links us to our ancestors) - This sounds good.
- The Holy Spoon - Neuro-somatic??? ("There's not enough fun to be had" is a 5th circuit realization, isn't it?) The 'Kallisti' myth has emotional-territorial as well as socio-sexual elements. - while this is true, at the same time it is a Spoon. that's pretty oral, pretty biosurvival if ever i've seen anything!! Conor: OK, I like that. I was having touble fitting in the first circuit anyway.
- The Reality Fish - Emotional-territorial??? ("I'm a Fish" could be taken to be emotional-territorial, depending on what tone of voice the fish says it in.) Metaprogramming??? - Socio-sexual maybe? "I'm a fish" stating what it is, it's the only god that explicitly speaks, that's social. plus telling where it stands, it is a fish, i guess could be territorial leader-of-the-pack type talk but I don't think it's that way, it's more "i am a fish what are you?" if anything. sort of interesting to take that view and then consider that we haven't found the secret yet. haven't found the social secret yet. probably means that once we have the 8th secret we'll know how to get everyone in the world to understand the gods and be the most famous people ever, ever.
- Thomas The Walking Head - Emotional-territorial circuit??? Biosurvival??? - thomas seems pretty walky and since he is everywhere always because he walks so slyly, he is pretty territorial in the sense of godliness. "the world is expecting too much" is sort of a transcendence of territoriality, well it can be. I say emotional territorial, circuit 2.
- A Magical Trumpet Called Bill - Neuro-somatic??? ("Laughing is always an option" seems pretty neuro-somatic to me.) Socio-sexual??? Emotional-territorial??? - happily enough, the way i've done this, Bill fits into the neurosomatic as i've left him til last after fitting the rest. but you're right, laughing is always an option is pretty 5th circuit. bill has also got a load of insanity coming out of his face-ish, and is probably the most explicitly psychedelic god in that sense. somatic insanity. I'm not sure but 5th circuit feels good!
- The DXM Angel - Metaprogramming - yes I very think so, "It" happening is always associated with metaprogramming and completing the loop of consciousness of being conscious of how consciousness is conscious of being conscious, to me. Also, 'do exercise more' - exercise is an act of metaprogramming.
--Really I feel that many of the concepts expressed by the gods fall into 5th / 7th circuit ideals, or are tinted through those type of glasses. But that's more likely my own interpretation of them isn't it (seeing through mirrored lenses). Some of them feel a bit forced, but let's not that stop us!! -hugh
Yeah, the gods are all pretty insane and psychedelic, so I find it hard to link them to the lower circuits. Forced, indeed.
OK, so we can agree on:
- The Holy Spoon - Biosurvival
- Thomas The Walking Head - Emotional-territorial circuit
- A Magical Trumpet Called Bill - Neuro-somatic
- Triangulon - Neuro-genetic
- The DXM Angel - Metaprogramming
- Dimensional Transfunctioner - Quantum non-local circuit
Which leaves us with General Miaow and The Reality Fish to assign to the 3rd and 4th circuits. I'd go for The Reality Fish to the semantic time-binding circuit and General Miaow to the socio-sexual.
"I'm a fish" is a fundamental expression of linguistic self-awareness. Animals don't think "I'm a dog", "I'm an emu"; they don't have that sort of self-awareness and semantic thought that enables self-awareness. Semantic time-binding thought begins with thinking, "I'm a fish".
General Miaow is a sort of trickster god. He's very sly and clever. He just seems like he'd be good at the socio-sexual stuff. As an example, look at that time he manifested in 1957 and kept saying things like, "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." That's socio-sexual advice expressed in a form that shows socio-sexual savvy.

